He's fine. I just... he said something to me, just after I got back, and I didn't want to think about it. But I know that he and Bill are still speaking, and it worries me.
He promised me, in all earnestness, that he wasn't going to make the same mistakes again. That next time, they'd be more careful. Now, I don't think barring them from seeing each other is the answer, but I wanted to know if you knew anything about this 'future plans' state.
I think you're right. Barring them from seeing each other would only make
them want to do it more, and it's ... good ... for them both to have ...
friends. [She is not sure these are the correct words in this
context, but she doesn't have any alternatives.] But it is ...
concerning, if the potential exists for more mistakes of the same
magnitude. Careful or not, I don't ... [A thoughtful pause, and a
slow exhale. She doesn't like this, but it is what it is.]
I'll talk to him and let you know if I learn anything.
Thanks. It's not that I don't think the things he's interested in are important. I just... honestly, I don't trust either of them alone, let alone together, to know what risks are acceptable. The way they're both acting, I feel as though they're sorry I died, but not actually all that sorry they did it. They act more misunderstood than anything.
Hm. I do think Ford, at least, is capable of remorse. How he shows it, if
he even does, I don't know yet.
[ Because besides what happened with Luke, she can't stop thinking
about that alligator Ford killed, now, or the fact he had that weapon on
him to begin with. All the gators she's ever encountered have been largely
unbothered by people, but the port was strange. It might have attacked him.
It might not have. She has a lot to think about, even with these few
sentences exchanged. ]
I can track them and find out what they're up to. It may be more effective
than asking outright.
[ Even if she hates that it means she can't trust Ford. She's so
disappointed in that. ]
I'm not saying he, or they, are definitely doing anything. [He hates speaking behind their backs, but he's also desperate for nothing like what had happened to ever happen again.] But I know they're still speaking. And Ford's offered me a weapon, as if he thought my lack of popularity required some sort of defense. It's not proof, and I'm not accusing either one. But I have to confess, I am worried at what they'll take as the lessons from their last attempt.
It doesn't have to be proof of anything. These facts stand on their own as
... probable cause, I think. If we have any kind of suspicion that our
inmates are ... not working towards becoming their best, then it falls to
us to investigate.
[As if, on top of everything else, Luke needs better defense.]
And you're right. I know both of them do have regrets, and I think a lot of those are for the right reasons. But fell that both also have more than a hint of resentment that they weren't validated.
Uh. What did he call it... a shock glove? I'm all for non-lethal methods of self-defense, trust me. But it seemed a little weird for him to offer it.
[He shrugs.]
I just get the sense from them, in slightly different ways, that they were just misunderstood and where they failed wasn't exactly in the desire but the execution. And that people just weren't appreciative of what they were trying to do.
[She sighs, pinching the bridge of her nose.] I'm ... sure
he thinks he's being helpful. Especially if he isn't aware that you're ...
extremely capable of handling yourself. I suppose it could be considered a
good thing, at least, that he's thinking of other people.
No, I don't think you're wrong. But ... I am not the person who should talk
to them about empathy.
I'm not sure how you tell someone to have more empathy. Besides, whenever I try things like that people get that look like I'm some sort of lost Ewok cub and don't know that the world's a big bad place.
[He smiles slightly, in self-deprecation.]
I think Bill is better than he was, even if he hates showing it. Maybe Ford is, too, I don't know. But neither of them thinks the way I do, and I can't predict what they'll try next. I just know they're not done. Like I said, I'm not ready to forbid them spending time together. Just, let's both keep an eye out?
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He promised me, in all earnestness, that he wasn't going to make the same mistakes again. That next time, they'd be more careful. Now, I don't think barring them from seeing each other is the answer, but I wanted to know if you knew anything about this 'future plans' state.
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I haven't heard anything.
I think you're right. Barring them from seeing each other would only make them want to do it more, and it's ... good ... for them both to have ... friends. [She is not sure these are the correct words in this context, but she doesn't have any alternatives.] But it is ... concerning, if the potential exists for more mistakes of the same magnitude. Careful or not, I don't ... [A thoughtful pause, and a slow exhale. She doesn't like this, but it is what it is.]
I'll talk to him and let you know if I learn anything.
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Hm. I do think Ford, at least, is capable of remorse. How he shows it, if he even does, I don't know yet.
[ Because besides what happened with Luke, she can't stop thinking about that alligator Ford killed, now, or the fact he had that weapon on him to begin with. All the gators she's ever encountered have been largely unbothered by people, but the port was strange. It might have attacked him. It might not have. She has a lot to think about, even with these few sentences exchanged. ]
I can track them and find out what they're up to. It may be more effective than asking outright.
[ Even if she hates that it means she can't trust Ford. She's so disappointed in that. ]
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What kind of weapon?
It doesn't have to be proof of anything. These facts stand on their own as ... probable cause, I think. If we have any kind of suspicion that our inmates are ... not working towards becoming their best, then it falls to us to investigate.
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[As if, on top of everything else, Luke needs better defense.]
And you're right. I know both of them do have regrets, and I think a lot of those are for the right reasons. But fell that both also have more than a hint of resentment that they weren't validated.
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Do you know what it does?
Hm. [That's a new, and fair point. It hadn't occurred to her.] What kind of validation do you think they're looking for?
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[He shrugs.]
I just get the sense from them, in slightly different ways, that they were just misunderstood and where they failed wasn't exactly in the desire but the execution. And that people just weren't appreciative of what they were trying to do.
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[She sighs, pinching the bridge of her nose.] I'm ... sure he thinks he's being helpful. Especially if he isn't aware that you're ... extremely capable of handling yourself. I suppose it could be considered a good thing, at least, that he's thinking of other people.
No, I don't think you're wrong. But ... I am not the person who should talk to them about empathy.
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[He smiles slightly, in self-deprecation.]
I think Bill is better than he was, even if he hates showing it. Maybe Ford is, too, I don't know. But neither of them thinks the way I do, and I can't predict what they'll try next. I just know they're not done. Like I said, I'm not ready to forbid them spending time together. Just, let's both keep an eye out?